Vira's Wings

Vayne wrote:Alright, here's my beef.

Any power--any power at *all*--tied to the old Glacia, as is my understanding here, shouldn't be allowed because FEC. Not even a shred of that old power should be tapped into, not even for flight or even aesthetics. Glacia's power--100% of it--is gone. You'll have to find, not only an appropriate answer to *how* as you've been doing, but a why--why Vira has any of this at all ever.

I'll quote ONE THING FROM THE FIRST FREAKING POST....

If this gets approved or not, I'm fine either way.

However, I'm also not really seeing any ideas being thrown at me. So I guess we can say "screw this" and toss this then. My reasoning clearly isn't suitable.

Also, for what I did quote. I have said multiple times that this ISNT GLACIAS POWER ANYMORE. ITS A NEW FREAKING DEMI. I have said this quite a few times. Before it WAS, but I changed it. This isn't even any old power stuff, it's new. Another note is that I was told that I WOULD be able to get some old powers back, however they would need to be rerequested and make logical sense. THIS however, isn't one of those.

Sorry if I'm a little on edge with this, it's 3 in the morning and I need to sleep.

It is not actually our job to come up with ways that you can have your power.
Think: "if I can't justify why I have this power, is it really that important for me to have it?"

Anyway, the problem I am having (and I think Vayne is well) is not that it's the same power as you had before (because it's not) but because it's coming from the same place.
She can not draw on the energy within herself. This is what you agreed upon in your FEC.

No, that is NOT what I stated in my FEC. What I stated was that with her memory gone, she would FORGET all her powers, thus rendering her unable to use them. And then she would also be unable to reach a point of power to be able to do the FEC Explosion again, which mind you she was able to do WITHOUT her IC Demi.

Actually: Glacia is right, while we do not have to throw ideas on how Glacia's power should work, we are suppose to be given constructive criticism.
"Just won't work"
Now: Glacia's FEC request mentions nothing about her powers being weakened, only that she would forget them and would have to relearn them.


Mana -----, have been a basic form of magic through the guild's existence(even before power request were up.)
Mana tools, mana flight, mana armor.

It's just like Glacia wants to represent, is a 'mana shield' like power.

To further what Xeek just said, it's actually posted in the powers re-introduction page.


Flight, Low Level - Active; able to hover or glide across the ground, usually by a displacement of Mana (possible for powerful mages)

...She's making wings with mana.

Why would she not be able to? The character itself HAS mana, and a LOT of it, last I heard. It's not like it's an entirely new body in-game that has a total of 2 MP and 10 int.


Glacia never had the power to make herself some mana wings. The wings are ENTIRELY new(and the request is likely based off the fact glacia got wings IG and wants to make them unique to her character), and it's not like she's drawing on something as unique as most of Soifa's things. It's MANA, pretty much everyone has mana.

My approval stands, just clarifying.g

So does mine, if any needed to know.

Making wings with mana is fine.
All I want to know before I approve is how she learned how to make mana wings because it is neither a common skill or a racial skill.
Once this is explained I will gladly approve, because the power itself is not bad.

If I remember correctly Mithos at one point, had a mana hand in one of our duels. . .

I approve.

Yes, but Mithos gave reasons for why he had this ability in his powers request.

She wanted a faster method of travel and decided a form of levitating of hovering would be best. And the best way to perform such a task would be to have wings. However, sprouting wings is near impossible, so the second best idea would be wings of mana. So after talking with some mages, Vira developed a method to create mana wings. The wings are black and are etheral, but look nearly solid. The flight makes her feel a bit faster, but she isn't all that faster.

That a decent enough story for learning the ability?

Yes, that's fine.
I'll move this now.