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Post  Teoxihuitl Fri May 07, 2010 8:19 am

As stated in the other thread she can impregnate people. It involves shooting a seed/egg from a tentacle at slow speeds, thats basically it. Since she is a demon that loves water he powers are boosted when near the sea or its raining, but they are also dimished in teh desert or volcanos and the such. That's it. . .
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Post  Dellinger Fri May 07, 2010 11:33 am

*sighs* First off, that is not everything you stated, so I'll bring up everything you did state and everything you need to state so that this can either be approved or rejected until editing.

Point A:
Lealux was inadvertently created by Azarune and Angron near Emain. Basically she is a elf that hasnt been tainted by sin that harbors a demon within her pants. Her sole purpose is to lure men in with her body and devour them.
Explain this. Stating 'it happened' does not tell us how it was created. Assume we know nothing about this process you are attempting to show us.

Point B:
As of now she has impregnated Raven with her child, with the seeds she shots from the demons tentacles. . . She can impregnate people but since the attack to do so involves shooting the seed at slow speeds, it misses a lot. Raven was an unlucky one that didnt dodge it though.
I don't get how you're justifying this working... If it's being shot, and it's pretty much just goop, I don't see how if it hits it's an auto-impregnation, considering most processes are way more complicated than that. So we can understand the process, you're going to have to spell it out.

Point C:
It's composed of a jelly like body that has 8 tentacles that protrude from it. Though it is virtually indestuctable it has one weakness, lightning. That is unless she finds the lightning warriors helm she lost while fighting Xeek.
Why only lightning? I believe jelly can fry... I also believe jelly can freeze... I don't really see a reason to give it the trait of being 'virtually indestructible arbitrarily, and I definitely do not approve of a single item that will make this thing completely 'virtually indestructible,' no matter how strong the individual named Xeek is.

Point D:
Hooray, impregnation. What does that cause? You state the event occurs but you give us no information as to what happens.



Hopefully this sheds some light on what you need to tell us and what you need to consider before I will personally approve this. Just telling us the power without justification (specifically justification for why it should be in Mabi along with the other points listed above) is not enough for approval.

Thank you for posting your powers, but I would like to see a lot of clarification.
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Post  Veleth Fri May 07, 2010 11:48 am

You give no actual explanation for the event occuring, neither do you explain the actual other powers. Seeing as any creatures from other realms would've passed through Soul Stream, I find it hard to believe that Nao or the other guides would have let a demon through.

Is there only one power?
I, for one, would like to see an example of a creature, inside the Mabinogi universe, that acts in this manner. I see no creatures in the realm of Mabinogi or Celtic myth that is of this nature.


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Post  Darian Fri May 07, 2010 1:56 pm

Galin wrote:I, for one, would like to see an example of a creature, inside the Mabinogi universe, that acts in this manner. I see no creatures in the realm of Mabinogi or Celtic myth that is of this nature.

Well, the English, of course.

ZING!

Seriously, though, there are ways to fanwank some of it. Such as that the created wasn't created so much as 'summoned' from it's home world/plane by Azarune and Angron. Other issues arise, however.

The creature gains it strength through water. Technically speaking this means that lightning would be the one thing that it *would* be immune to, since water is highly conductive and unaffected by lightning. It finds itself vulnerable in a desert so, logically, fire would be quite harmful since a little bit of heat is bad a *lot* of heat should be *really* bad. Also, ice tends to make water creatures not move very well. I understand that this creature isn't *made* of water so it's understandable that it would be neutral towards it.

Also, and I hate to put it this way, but can we really call projectile spooging a power? I mean, if that's half the guild might need to update their powers section. Also, this impregnating, is it an asexual reproduction where the target is simply a warm, moist envrionment ala face-huggers from Aliens or . . .?

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Post  Dellinger Fri May 07, 2010 2:06 pm

Yes, it is a power, and hence why I told Teo it needed to go here because of what it did.
Again, more information needs to be given before anything productive can be done with this.
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Post  Veleth Fri May 07, 2010 2:13 pm

*kicks Liiam* Liiam, I enjoy your joke immensely, but please leave the explanations to the person who wrote it. They themselves have to be able to justify it, not others.
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Post  Jaeden Fri May 07, 2010 2:22 pm

Currently I'm not a mentor, but I really have to put my foot down on this. There are kids in this guild, and this sounds like the creation of someone who's been watching too much of a certain type of anime. I'm really wondering if this is just all a joke; the last time I read anything this weird or bizarre that wasn't on a TS client, I was staring at fuzzy text in a dream.

If you're going for a succubus type character, and you -really- want to impregnate with a female, then there's one simple solution: Make her a transvestite. Give her male junk.

I see no reason not to approve other powers to aid her; like a viagra-stare. In other words, the ability to make other characters sexually aroused by turning up the pheromones and what have you. NOTE that you would have to put limitations on it yourself, and make it acceptable. There are like-ability potions in game that you can give to NPCs, so I don't see any reason as to why this wouldn't be approved if carefully molded. Now, granted, you wouldn't be able to seduce them entirely. . . You would -never- be able to touch their feelings for you, or actually force them to want to have intercourse. But you can definitely make the idea more appealing to them.

And Liiam's right. Projectile splooging can be achieved through men and women. Men just have an easier time doing it.

But I refuse to accept that it can impregnate someone by just landing on them. You have to get it inside their reproductive organs. And -besides- . . .it's funner that way.

By all means, if you want crazy sextacles, I'm not trying to stop you. But keep it to yourself and in between those you want to play with in private RPs. Hopefully within the IM system or through another messenger; I doubt very many people would want to over hear it. This should -not- be an approved power.


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It's been brought to my understanding this character is an outside guild character.

*Lets out a long sigh.*

As I just said not two sentences ago, I really don't care if you want to RP something like this. Hell, I enjoy a good demon-seed-splooger on other games in appropriate 18+ environments. However, you have to realize that if you want a separate character from guild standards. . . then your RPs are separate from the guild as well. People from within the guild can take part if they want, but it must be private. Meaning, alternative universe. Meaning, you can impregnate all of Erinn with you and your private RP buddies, but as far as RPSociety goes, it never happened.

Do you understand?

This power should not, and cannot (by guild standards) be approved.
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Post  Dellinger Fri May 07, 2010 2:51 pm

As for anyone else who decides to comment on this thread: Make your comments productive or I will start considering deleting those that I feel are bashing the character. I want to see the edits and concessions that Teo is willing to make, and I will not be pleased with any more posts that are just here to poke fun of the character or the subject. Make your posts in response to this productive or keep your comments to yourself.


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Post  Teoxihuitl Fri May 07, 2010 3:32 pm

Just got back from the movies and did not expect all of this.

Lealux was made really by Angron and Aza. Angron stared under her skirt and Aza said it was a *chest burster* and I just took it from there. If anything I took the normal succubus from the game and made it more like the succubi in biblical folklore.

Second of all the seed she shoots is kinda like bulbasaurs' leech seed, it lands and envelops the person. Once it lands the goop as was put earlier acts as an adhesive, then the seed opens and lets out small tentacles that force themselves into any orifice on the body.

Jelly can do many things, but my point is that all teh damage goes to the host not the demon. It has cut off its on nervous system and uses that of its host. So it feels no pain, that and jelly is easy to throw around and reconfigure itself, hence the indestuctability. The helm was just an idea I had, since its weakness is lightning the Lightning warriors helm found in Mabi seemed like an easy way to circumvent this problem. If it's not approved then I could really care less. It was just a random idea.

Impregnation is what is stated. It makes you pregnant, it wont kill you and it wont leave your body it make you the host. You lose your individuality and succumb to the parasite within you. Raven has already killed the one that was held within him. If you kill it (or yourself) before it has adequate time to reach your heart it automatically dies.

This power is really a way to get around death. Once the child is fully grown it leaves the host and finds it way back to its mother. Thus in turn she becomes stronger and gains more knowledge. The host taht it leaves however will be left alive or dead depending on people that either attacked it or left it alone.

As far as celtic myth, there are plenty of things in mabi that dont show themselves in myth that doesnt make them any less credible. Also I stated earlier that I am very willing to change her to please people, though I wont change her just because people are bashing her. If you have a honest reason of why it should be changed it will, bashing helps no one.
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Post  Veleth Fri May 07, 2010 3:58 pm

Okay, let's go point by point.

#1) Please explain how this 'creature' came to being. Are you implying that Angron looking underneath a woman's skirt creates things like this? I'm not quite sure you understand the succubi from biblical folklore, but certainly you can feel free to provide references as to the succubi who had tentacle creatures growing out of their genitals.

#2) You've created a situation wherein your creature could be immune to any attack. Thus giving it god-like abilities by the presence of the lightning warrior's helm.

#3) Please feel free to read my statement regarding Mabinogi OR Celtic Mythology as just that. Dragons exist, Succubi exist, Incubus exist, Bandersnaches exist, etc. Your tentacle monster does not have any relative creatures in the world of Mabinogi or in Celtic Mythos. And as Mabinogi is based on Celtic myth, that is the only reason why it is included as a reference. Point to me a parasitic enemy that impregnates the user. I'd like to see something regarding how this is put into effect and is based in the world that exists.
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Post  Teoxihuitl Fri May 07, 2010 4:12 pm

*sigh*
The point I made in the first post I made about this character was that it was incomplete. You cant force a backstory to be made where there is none. I could say Lealux was a nice person that conceiled her hate till it manifested herself within her but it wouldnt work for me. I joined an rp and it just spiraled into this. I told the guild that it was a temporary thing and wouldnt be rping much with her but she seemed popular, that and when I logged onto her again I was bombarded by about 16 notes from different people. All of which said I had to make a bio or she was banned from rping. I also said that the helm thing was just an idea and im certainly willing to get rid of it. This demon is basically a Succubi with the addition of tentacles, which could be reached through alchemy or some weird drunken night with a succubus and a squid. The point being is that, you are asking me to fabricate a backstory when I for one dont have the time to create one. I've been talking with guildmates and what tehy thought about her, and I am changing her as we speak. You cant really judge this character until you have rped with her since she is constantly in flux.
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Post  Honeko Fri May 07, 2010 4:18 pm

We're not completely asking for a backstory. We're asking for you to justify why your character can have the powers you are saying. The point of the powers section is not for you to tell us what the powers are but instead to say what the powers you'd like for her to have are and why they should be allowed using the justifications that are being asked.
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Post  Teoxihuitl Fri May 07, 2010 4:25 pm

Honeko wrote:We're not completely asking for a backstory. We're asking for you to justify why your character can have the powers you are saying. The point of the powers section is not for you to tell us what the powers are but instead to say what the powers you'd like for her to have are and why they should be allowed using the justifications that are being asked.
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This is actually constructive, I have been feeling attacked since I created Lealux, so thanks.

As for why it should be allowed, it's just a way to make sure she doesnt die in 2 rps. In teh few rps she has been in shes been slashed, burned,thundered, decapitated, maimed and countless other things. If it has some genetic code of itself that can find its way back to it then it has a chance of living. Lealux and the demon are 2 different people not one and the same. Though Lealux has been under its control for so long she has no memory of her prior self. That and it can work with anythign not just other humans, the attack would work on a chicken aslong as it stays alive. No point making a character and having it die in a couple rp's.
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Post  Captincrunch Fri May 07, 2010 7:31 pm

May I make a suggestion here?
Why not use the soul stream mechanic of "I fall down but get back up again" to describe the demonic power of being ultimately indestructible with the down side that since you are jelly you can be splattered and spread around a bit. The more splattered the longer it takes to get yourself together.
OK - I got this idea from a very old short story first published in Analog but it seems to fit the basic idea of the creatures makeup.
You will still get squished, beheaded, blown up, frozen, stabbed, shot, fried, stoned, poisoned, etc but you will be back for the next episode in the horror saga.

Oh, a side note on lightning - its BAD for water based creatures that have conductivity levels lower than that of base metals - something about super-heating, polarization and denaturing effects. There are also the shock waves produced from the passage of such currents that tend to rupture cell membranes.
For those interested look up the Tesla Jello experiments. Fun, noisy, messy and ultimately scary if analyzed with respect to equivalent materials.
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Post  Xeek Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:27 pm

Is this issue done? Isn't the character going to be re-created or trashed? So blue box this?
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Post  Dalvar Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:14 am

Trashed. Yes.
Box away.
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